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Nike Dunks — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 06:02:48 -0000

this is not a truthful interview, but I understand that Mr. Muhannad Khatib has to protect his CV and standing so he turns the ATV flop into some sort of mysterious government campaign against innovation and progress.

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Nike Dunks — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:40:21 -0000

HAHAHHAHAH mutually loathing, paranoid, suspicious yet self-proclaimed open-mined Jordanians. You’re the parody of the politicians and the sytem you profess to hate. UNBELIEVABLE!

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7arame — Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:52:51 -0000

I didn’t want to comment here initially, but I just liked how diverse opinions are, and how educated a few of the comments here are.

I think that a lot of people are missing the point. Banning, or preventing ATV from being aired sets a dangerous precedent and some do not seem to comprehend that. When the media city was set up in Amman, it only managed to attract ART and Iqraa TV (those are the only channels I know of). So that plan was sort of a flop. But with the relative success of radio stations (at least they gave new blood to radio stations here), we were hoping, as Jordanians, that ATV could push the media industry forward, and that Jordan would take a great leap of faith in media.

Yes, our press, magazines, newspapers, radio stations and TV stations are not really on par with international standards. But independent and neutral media outlets did not grow to what they are today without first gaining ground. It seems that a lot of people are attacking ATV, and I say let AVC give permission to ATV to be aired. Let’s learn more about their platform and see what they can offer. Perhaps that would open new doors for new investors to start investing in the media, and that’s where you have a healthy and diverse media sector.

Be real, you can’t expect us to have publications like the Economist when on average, the population reads seven minutes a year. Yes seven minutes, and yes in a year. And you can’t expect ATV to deliver quality on par with American channels or British channels when its the first TV channel in Jordan.

At this point, I don’t care about ATV’s agenda, employees or management. I, as a Jordanian want to have a choice of toggling through at least 5 or 6 channels. I am tired of finding refuge in Western media, and ATV is the first step towards having a healthy media in Jordan.
i don’t know what the hoopla is all about. the shows on ikbis are ok, but i can’s say atv will be a trend-setter. yes, it’s better than jordan tv, but that’s about it and thats’ not something to brag about. i will add my voice to others in saying that i do not care one way or the other. so long as atv cannot up MBC or Dubai or Algazeera or Alarabia, it’s just a local tv channel. and that’s fine with me. but if al-ghad newspaper is any proof, atv will be another voice of the government. i am not looking forward to another propaganda channel that insists on calling itself independent. enough insults to our intelligence. so all this atv stuff is much ado about nothing. i will remind the readers of al-ghad newspaper ads and the suspense they have created, only to discover al-ghad is a dud. i am not getting my hopes to high with atv. it will be a pretty channel no doubt, because pretty is all what we are good at. look at the plethora of laminated magazines with low-substance and high graphics, not one of them deals with jordans’ killer issues and we all know what they are. if any, many of these all-fluff-and-no-stuff magazines are nothing but distractions from the core issues we all know. they all have one claim to fame, sort of like atv, they are better than the other local magazines, if not in content, at least in the sexy graphics. what many educated jordanians are looking for is a back-to-basics journalism, tv or print media. sort of like Der Spiegel or Economist or BBC but when i heard atv will have a special show for Ayman Safadi, i knew immediately it will be a worthless channel. ayman is known for his attacks on Jordanian opposition, civil society, arab resistance. he is the voice of jordanian neo-liberalism. there is no balancing program on atv. even Fox news tries to play the balance game with its collection of shows. this says plenty about atv’s mission and the built-in defects. for atv to launch or not to launch, that’s immaterial to me and others who don’t like what al-Ghad, Al-Safadi, and Olayaan stand for…pure neo-liberal opportunism.
i don’t know what the hoopla is all about. the shows on ikbis are ok, but i can’s say atv will be a trend-setter. yes, it’s better than jordan tv, but that’s about it and thats’ not something to brag about. i will add my voice to others in saying that i do not care one way or the other. so long as atv cannot up MBC or Dubai or Algazeera or Alarabia, it’s just a local tv channel. and that’s fine with me. but if al-ghad newspaper is any proof, atv will be another voice of the government. i am not looking forward to another propaganda channel that insists on calling itself independent. enough insults to our intelligence. so all this atv stuff is much ado about nothing. i will remind the readers of al-ghad newspaper ads and the suspense they have created, only to discover al-ghad is a dud. i am not getting my hopes to high with atv. it will be a pretty channel no doubt, because pretty is all what we are good at. look at the plethora of laminated magazines with low-substance and high graphics, not one of them deals with jordans’ killer issues and we all know what they are. if any, many of these all-fluff-and-no-stuff magazines are nothing but distractions from the core issues we all know. they all have one claim to fame, sort of like atv, they are better than the other local magazines, if not in content, at least in the sexy graphics. what many educated jordanians are looking for is a back-to-basics journalism, tv or print media. sort of like Der Spiegel or Economist or BBC but when i heard atv will have a special show for Ayman Safadi, i knew immediately it will be a worthless channel. ayman is known for his attacks on Jordanian opposition, civil society, arab resistance. he is the voice of jordanian neo-liberalism. there is no balancing program on atv. even Fox news tries to play the balance game with its collection of shows. this says plenty about atv’s mission and the built-in defects. for atv to launch or not to launch, that’s immaterial to me and others who don’t like what al-Ghad, Al-Safadi, and Olayaan stand for…pure neo-liberal opportunism.

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7armee2007 — Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:47:54 -0000

am so very disappointed from what I have read.. I am a total outsider to this, I dontlive in Jordan Currently and i don’t know the true stories behind ATV and JTV, but what i have seen is a totally irrespectful uncivilized discussion and orrespect for disagreements. I am truly dissapointed from the comments here.. from people I supposed to be the mose cultured, open and respectful to other’s opinions. What i have seen here is that we are still soooooooooooo far away from learning how to disagree and still respect. What brought up the name of Nahed Hatar? What did he has to do with the original topic in the first place? We ended up attacking and defending someone who is not here, who doesn’t know about this and is not aware of the space he has been saved to discuus his loyalities, beleifs and deads! (by the way, and tolerate my igonorance, i know nothing about the above mentioned person, and i don’t know if he is evil or good. It’s just not the place to discuss him, and not the best manner as well. at least have him there when you want to have all these pros and cons mentioned about him)
This whole discussion became a personal fight which is totally inapropriate. And that’s not it, we are attacking each other and judging each others in a very low class manner!
As for the original topic which was lost, I totally agree with Khawaja M, and with Rabian monkey that the channel should be on air, and left to the audience to decide how good or how bad.. but from what I read, banning ATV channel this way and with no clear reason why is a scandel to a country that claims to have freedom of speech.

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tala — Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:32:33 -0000

bye atv... bye mohannad khatib ..
happy 3id 4 all muslims people..

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zaman — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:21:24 -0000

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ArabianMonkey — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:33:34 -0000

Read a serious & soulful Mohannad Khatib to AlJazeera Talk on the illusive ATV story - he says a lot, but not quite everything: http://www.aljazeeratalk.ne...

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IRISH — Sat, 06 Oct 2007 09:48:14 -0000

I'm a jordanian citizen currently living outside jordan in my opinion i think what happened to ATV is a real example of how everything runs in our country of how corruption, goverment control, lack of democracy and freedom rule i think what happened to ATV was a response from the goverment dut to the fear it felt from this kind of project, just imagine what a free, independent tv channel can do on the political level in the country, i remeber at the times of the kabariti goverment there was this weekly newspaper called 3abed raboh and actually this small paper made quite a big dofference on the political level so imagine what would happen with a professional tv channel!!!

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You all need help — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:17:49 -0000

HAHAHHAHAH mutually loathing, paranoid, suspicious yet self-proclaimed open-mined Jordanians. You're the parody of the politicians and the sytem you profess to hate. UNBELIEVABLE!

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Reem — Sat, 22 Sep 2007 03:19:32 -0000

I am so very disappointed from what I have read.. I am a total outsider to this, I dontlive in Jordan Currently and i don't know the true stories behind ATV and JTV, but what i have seen is a totally irrespectful uncivilized discussion and orrespect for disagreements. I am truly dissapointed from the comments here.. from people I supposed to be the mose cultured, open and respectful to other's opinions. What i have seen here is that we are still soooooooooooo far away from learning how to disagree and still respect. What brought up the name of Nahed Hatar? What did he has to do with the original topic in the first place? We ended up attacking and defending someone who is not here, who doesn't know about this and is not aware of the space he has been saved to discuus his loyalities, beleifs and deads! (by the way, and tolerate my igonorance, i know nothing about the above mentioned person, and i don't know if he is evil or good. It's just not the place to discuss him, and not the best manner as well. at least have him there when you want to have all these pros and cons mentioned about him)
This whole discussion became a personal fight which is totally inapropriate. And that's not it, we are attacking each other and judging each others in a very low class manner!
As for the original topic which was lost, I totally agree with Khawaja M, and with Rabian monkey that the channel should be on air, and left to the audience to decide how good or how bad.. but from what I read, banning ATV channel this way and with no clear reason why is a scandel to a country that claims to have freedom of speech.

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Reem — Sat, 22 Sep 2007 03:19:00 -0000

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Pheras Hilal — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:26:36 -0000

I didn't want to comment here initially, but I just liked how diverse opinions are, and how educated a few of the comments here are.

Yes, our press, magazines, newspapers, radio stations and TV stations are not really on par with international standards. But independent and neutral media outlets did not grow to what they are today without first gaining ground. It seems that a lot of people are attacking ATV, and I say let AVC give permission to ATV to be aired. Let's learn more about their platform and see what they can offer. Perhaps that would open new doors for new investors to start investing in the media, and that's where you have a healthy and diverse media sector.

Be real, you can't expect us to have publications like the Economist when on average, the population reads seven minutes a year. Yes seven minutes, and yes in a year. And you can't expect ATV to deliver quality on par with American channels or British channels when its the first TV channel in Jordan.

At this point, I don't care about ATV's agenda, employees or management. I, as a Jordanian want to have a choice of toggling through at least 5 or 6 channels. I am tired of finding refuge in Western media, and ATV is the first step towards having a healthy media in Jordan.

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Jordanian Citizen — Sun, 16 Sep 2007 06:30:50 -0000

If this issue is important to you, send out:

To Whom It May Concern;

We are writing to you today as concerned Jordanian citizens requesting that the unresolved and pressing issue of ATV is addressed with the integrity deserved after three years of enormous investment and preparation. It is particularly disconcerting to find that Jordan’s long anticipated first private broadcasting station is struggling to launch – not due to programming delays or technical problems, but due seemingly to national restraints.

Ironically, the efforts tirelessly committed towards the liberalization of the telecom and media markets are now seeing continuous constraints imposed on media enthusiasts and investors alike, disheartening those already committed to their projects and discouraging others from entering a space that other markets and citizens have enjoyed for years.

We ask that this issue is not only resolved but more importantly addressed by the concerned parties. Not surprisingly, the issue has not received the media coverage it deserves nor has it been addressed publicly from media authorities, leaving the public with a question market on the level of importance the government holds for this industry. Jordanians are currently party to a government-controlled media that is limited in many ways. It is a basic right - and in the country’s best interest – to have a media that is expressive and representative of our citizens.

Jordan is a growing in every sense of the word - culturally, socially, economically and politically. With much happening in the global sphere as well as at home, it is important that we as a country have an available Jordan targeted medium that is able to nurture our growing pains and celebrate our achievements together as one nation. Television is the most powerful, accessible and affordable media form available to our citizens today. With the best interest of the public in mind, we urge that this issue is resolved without further delay and that we embrace our first television broadcasting effort. We hope that your efforts will set a badly needed standard for an encouraged broadcasting industry that is encouraged and hopefully celebrated as an example of excellent broadcasting across the region.

We look forward to a public response that will duly address this issue and put the concerns of the public at rest. We wish you luck in resolving the ATV issue and hope for a truly free media market that we can build together.

Best regards,

Name

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